IMAM SAMUDRA'S COFFIN ARRIVES

The Associated Press ,  Banten   |  Sun, 11/09/2008 12:15 PM  |  National


Indonesian Muslims carry the coffin of Bali bomber Imam Samudra in Serang, Banten province, on Sunday. Indonesia executed Samudra, 38, and brothers Amrozi Nurhasyim, 47, and Ali Ghufron, 48, Saturday for helping plan and carry out the 2002 Bali bombings that killed 202 people, many of them foreign tourists. (AP/Achmad Ibrahim)
 
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Alan (not verified) — Mon, 11/17/2008 - 3:30pm

cordoba ali, the zero was indeed first used by people in the Middle East...nothing to do with Islam though, they were Babylonians around 2000BC who devised the concept of a void in mathematics. The zero itself though is an Indian device from about 500BC.

That doesn't negate the huge advances made in science by western scientists who applied that earlier knowledge for the benefit of mankind, which many, yourself included, have benefited from.

Nobody here, white or any other color, supports anyone dying in Afghanistan or anywhere else and it's a strange logic that you use to tie this false assumption to the murder of more innocents as if two wrongs can ever justify each other.

Myself I find this logic to justify the unjustifiable quite irrationally evil.

Jon (not verified) — Fri, 11/14/2008 - 8:39pm

argun why did america go to afganistan wasnt it because they helpt shelter osama. I mean America did warn them and osama did say that he killd 3000 innocent people in new york to lure america into afganistan to figth them. Its amazing how you pick up a figth and then when you get your ass kick you blame the one you challenged. America is in afganistan because of osama so it is osama fault not America it looks like osama helpt the americans to come in afganistan maybe he was CIA and is now living on an island in the carrabian with 70 none virgin beauties.

Hans David (not verified) — Fri, 11/14/2008 - 7:29pm

To anyone saying how Americans had killed millions of people, I suggest you stop your whining and grow up...

So killing 100 people means less evil than killing 1000 people? Two wrongs never make it right.

You yell out there with your anti-america fiascos, yet you all smoke Marlboros and wearing jeans.

You are tired of being oppressed by the Americans, yet you use Windows XP and Internet Explorer.

You are all a bunch of hypocrites...

Alan (not verified) — Thu, 11/13/2008 - 10:43pm

Argun, many people here would not disagree with your thoughts on Afghanistan and Iraq but your stretch to use that to justify the murder of 202 innocents in Bali just makes you sound ignorant,and I'm guessing you are not an educated man as your logic makes no sense. These were not soldiers or legitimate targets and murdering these people cannot be justified by American or Australian actions or crimes in the middle east. It is just plain murder and Islam forbids it.

I know this is perhaps too complicated for your train of logic but it's true.

Evil begets evil and your justification is just that, evil.

Just me (not verified) — Thu, 11/13/2008 - 12:55pm

You think u'r true muslim. I don't thing so
In Paradise or Hell, only Allah knows....

Argun — Thu, 11/13/2008 - 2:38am

America along with NATO have dropped according to Bruce Rolfsen some 1853 bombs in the first half of 2008 alone. According to Fitzgibbon, "Australia was already carrying its fair share of the
burden with 1,000 troops in Afghanistan". Quite a burden.

Recent bombing in Afghanistan resulted in: (22 August 2008) - 100 Afghans losing their lives. Target: women and children.

Afghanistan is where a 1000 Australians troops are stationed. Why?

Numbers of Iraqis killed 1.3 million. that is a 1.3 million innocent Iraqis. Australia already carrying the
burden (Afghanistan), America and occupiers of Palestinian land are guilty.
What did the Iraqis do to the Australians?

Not forgetting that the war for finding wmd was a lie. It was oil along stupid.

i could go on.

Kurdip singh (not verified) — Wed, 11/12/2008 - 9:57am

Agreed with hendry..

Morpheus (not verified) — Wed, 11/12/2008 - 1:03am

Argun,
First, where do you get your information from ? Most of the INNOCENT people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan are killed by your "BROTHER" putting bomb near schools and markets. Killing women and children in the name of WHAT ???? SO get your facts straight before you write rubbish like that again. Bush was wrong to invade IRAQ but don't use that as an excuse for your warped ideas of something that isn't actually documented. Have you ACTUALLY ever read the Koran ?? Or are you so illiterate that you have to listen to it ? Where does it say that killing innocent tourists is somehow prized. The people in the pictures above are no better than common criminals and I am sure whatever God is out there will deal with them justly.

Jaka (not verified) — Mon, 11/10/2008 - 5:26pm

Indonesia has its own thought of Islam. War in Iraq and Afghanistan is not against Islam. Period.

Atif (not verified) — Mon, 11/10/2008 - 11:25am

Argun....
Whatever u have written is very true and reality. May (Allah) give us courage to admit the and understand the evil plannings of the west.
Also (Doa) for the hidayat or our leaders who lick the feet of west.

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