Guest Speaker's Forum: Anti-Ahmadiyah decree 'a human rights violation'

Mon, 06/16/2008 10:03 AM  |  National

A joint ministerial decree banning the Jamaah Ahmadiyah sect from spreading its beliefs has sparked debate across the country. National Commission on Human Rights (Komnas HAM) chairman Ifdhal Kasim shared his thoughts with The Jakarta Post's Triwik Kurniasari about the decree signed by Home Minister Mardiyanto, Religious Affairs Minister Maftuh Basyuni and Attorney General Hendarman Supandji on June 10.

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Question: How do you see the joint decree against Ahmadiyah?

Answer: The polemics over the decree can have negative consequences for Indonesia as a nation. It can lead to rifts and conflict within the community. The decree brings fears there will be other hard-line groups that pressure the government to ban or disband other groups in the future.

I have serious concerns a dominant religious group, for example a certain Christian group, will urge the government to disband another group that spreads interpretations and activities deviating from the basic teachings of Christianity.

The decree also gives the government more power to interfere in religious affairs. Indonesia is a secular country and its government cannot meddle in its citizens' religious affairs, which is a very private matter.

This country wasn't built or developed based on a certain religion. The five principles of Pancasila is the basic system of this country.

The decree is nothing but a form of human rights violation. It goes against Law No. 39/1999 on human rights.

Under the decree, the government still ensures Ahmadiyah's internal freedom, including allowing them to perform their daily religious services. It also protects them from being attacked by other groups in the community

The government, however, has violated the sect's external freedom by preventing them from spreading their religious teachings.

According to Law. No. 12/2005, which ratified the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the government can restrain a group's religious rights only for the sake of maintaining public order, public morality and people's right and freedom.

The limitation has to be stipulated constitutionally. Ahmadiyah has never violated the three things above. Nor was it ever taken to court for any crimes. So the government cannot ban or dissolve Ahmadiyah based only on assumptions.

In this case, the decree is unconstitutional. It proves the government can be pressured by hard-line groups.

How about the idea of following the example of the Pakistani government, which declared Ahmadiyah an un-Islamic organization?

I don't think the Indonesian government should follow suit. Pakistan is an Islamic country and it can manage its country under sharia laws. Indonesia can't do that because it's a secular country.

What has Komnas HAM done to challenge the decree?

We have sent letters to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Religious Affairs Minister Maftuh Basyuni, asking them to annul the decree that curbs the freedom of religion.

The decree is absolutely judicially incorrect. Freedom of religion cannot be limited by such a decree but it can only be limited by the law.

What are your suggestions for Ahmadiyah followers to respond to the decree?

Life should go on. They should live their lives. The most important thing is they have their rights as Indonesian citizens. Although they are banned from propagating their religious teachings, they are still allowed to maintain their faith and perform their daily religious activities, such as performing prayers and visiting their mosques.

The most important thing is they shouldn't be provoked into committing violence to express their objection of the decree.

Besides that, the government itself should be consistent in protecting its citizens. The decree warns of legal prosecution for those attacking Ahmadiyah followers. The government said anyone attacking sect members could be charged under the law on hate crimes. So I hope the government will seriously keep its promise to protect Ahmadiyah followers.

Can Ahmadiyah followers take any legal action to challenge the decree?

Sure they can. They have the same rights and duties as other Indonesians, despite claims their religious beliefs deviate from the principal teachings of Islam. They can file a lawsuit against the government over the decree because the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.

But the government should be fair and serious in handling the Ahmadiyah case. It should also improve the performances of the judiciary and police.

For people opposed to Ahmadiyah, they can also take legal action against the sect.

What does Komnas HAM expect from the government in relation to a decree like this?

I hope the government will involve us and ask for our opinion in setting rules related to human rights. It's a must because the commission is in charge of dealing with human rights matters and cases.

The government never asked for our opinion before deciding to issue the joint decree against Ahmadiyah. This has been a big question for me: Why did the government establish the commission, while in practice excluding us when setting human rights policies?

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Islam do has comprehensive rule that respect other religion, but in this case, Ahmadiyah has identified their groups as a part of Islam and their doctrine still bring Islam law...of course it will harm the fundamental principles in Islam.

All Moslem will respect to Ahmadiyah if they declare their own faith as new religion and not to do with Islam, like a long Indonesian history Moslem indeed respect other religion such as Cristian, Budha, Hindu etc.

The whole debate about Ahmadis being non-Muslims is based upon litany of lies, ill-conceived ideas & distorted facts propagated by self appointed & anointed religious leaders who have vested interest in running this campaign. What service is this to Islam when they incite violence, hatred, fear and threatening lives of innocent and peaceful inhabitants of land? And don’t use Pakistan as an example because that country is rotten & dilapidated to its core with no room for truth, justice, ethical & moral values, tolerance, compassion, fairness & equality. One of the most corrupt countries in the world. What Islam?

I agree to Komnas HAM chairman's opinion that the decree has curb the freedom of religion in Indonesian society. I have two reasons: first, Indonesia admits and respects to several religions and other beliefs under five principles of Pancasila so that government should give people the freedom of religion and beliefs; second, freedom in Islam is one of the most sacred rights that means Islam places freedom of opinion, belief, and expression compatible with the Islam's Shari'ah law. It means that Islam tolerances to non-muslims as God's human creatures and gives freedom for learning and choosing their beliefs. But on the contrary, I do not agree to his opinion that Indonesian government should not follow the example of Pakistan. Why not? First, though Indonesia is not Islamic country, but Indonesia has majority moslem people who mostly influence the law of nation so Indonesia could possibly take the example of Pakistan in declaring that Ahmadiyah as un-Islamic organization; second, government should declare that Ahmadiyah is un-islamic organization in Indonesia because we all know that they are not moslems and no one could guaranttee that they will not propagate their religious teachings.

Islam as way of life have specific rule and law according the holy qur'an and the sunna. If the interpretation of Islam be contradiction with those two source, there is out of Islam.
Freedom of idea, religion doesn't mean violation of Islam. In case of ahmadiyah, there is a violation of Islam. So, its must be stopped. And let the people of ahmadiyah back to the pure and genuineness of Islam.

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