MUI edicts condemned as 'pointless'

Syofiardi Bachyul Jb and Erwida Maulia ,  THE JAKARTA POST ,  PADANG/JAKARTA   |  Tue, 01/27/2009 9:52 AM  |  Headlines

The country’s highest Islamic authority has come under fire for bans on vote abstention, smoking and yoga.

Indulging in sin?: A man enjoys his cigarette in front of a mirror at a roadside food stall in Jakarta on Sunday. The Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) issued several edicts that same day, among others,  partially banning smoking and certain aspects of yoga.Indulging in sin?: A man enjoys his cigarette in front of a mirror at a roadside food stall in Jakarta on Sunday. The Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) issued several edicts that same day, among others, partially banning smoking and certain aspects of yoga,including religious rituals. JP/J. ADIGUNA

Edicts on the bans were issued by the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) during its two-day national meeting in Padangpanjang, West Sumatra, which ended on Sunday.

Some 700 clerics from the council agreed Muslims were forbidden to abstain from voting in elections if “qualified” candidates existed.

“Islam obliges Muslims to elect their leaders if the latter meet certain criteria,” Gusrizal Gazahar, MUI West Sumatra head, said after the meeting.

The criteria include "being Muslim, honest, brilliant and ready to fight for the people", the council added.

It also forbade smoking by children and pregnant women, and smoking in public places.

Outside these conditions, smoking was still deemed makruh (blameworthy) for Muslims, it said.
Muslims are also banned from practicing certain aspects of yoga that contained Hindu elements such as chanting and meditation, it said.

But Muslims can continue to perform yoga for purely health reasons, the council added.
Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), Indonesia’s biggest Islamic organization, slammed the edicts as “excessive”.

NU deputy head Masdar F. Mas’udi said the MUI should not have dragged religion into the three matters.

Yoga, as it is practiced in Indonesia, he said, was a pastime and must not be seen in the context of religious worship.

To discourage people from smoking, he added, the MUI should not use “Islamic law” as a tool.
“What's important is to inform the public of the bad effects of smoking and urge the government to enforce policies to discourage smoking,” Masdar told The Jakarta Post.

He also said the MUI should “not bring in God and threaten people with hell” if it wanted to encourage Muslims to vote.

Political expert Syamsuddin Haris agreed the MUI should not force people to vote, saying it was their democratic right to vote or not.

“It’s absolutely pointless. A religious body shouldn’t dictate political behavior,” he told tempointeraktif.com, adding the edict would have little impact.

Muslim scholar Azyumardi Azra also slammed the ban on yoga as “excessive” and “counterproductive”.

However, he lauded the edicts against vote abstention and smoking, saying the former was “positive” in strengthening democracy and elected administrations.

Azyumardi, an assistant to Vice President Jusuf Kalla, said the MUI had “compromised” and taken “accommodating” measures to partly forbid smoking, considering the fact the tobacco industry employed so many workers and contributed much to the country’s economy.

MUI edicts issued on Jan. 25, 2009

1. A ban on aspects of yoga that contain Hindu elements.
2. A ban on vote abstention if “qualified” candidates exist.
3. A ban on smoking by children and pregnant women, and in public places.
4. A ban on abortion unless the mother is a rape victim, the pregnancy endangers her life, or     the fetus is aged less than 5 weeks.
5. A ban on vasectomy because the process is "irreversible".
6. A ban on marriage with minors, based on a 1974 law that forbids men under 19 and women under 16 years old from marrying.

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Ya it is pointless ... em, like old saying
"anjing menggongong kafilah tetap berlalu"

Jaka, it seems you have a distorted idea about "outsiders".

Reading my post again. I said "Interesting that a non-Muslim COULD be the best (or only) presidential candidate, but they aren't allowed to vote for him/her."

I never said there IS. It was a hypothetical situation.

So your last paragraph was a waste of your own breath and proved you to be a bigot.

Does MUI have anything better to do?

Those who gathered at Padangpanjang just a bunch of untrained ulama, knowing only interpreting texts but forget that what they decided have great impact on the society AND MUI itself. The organisations should be more selective choosing their members as representatives.

@Iain: Can you name him/her? I would like to know "a non-muslim that is the best but not allowed to candidate"? As far as I know, the law allows every Indonesian to be a president. Funny how many outsiders have such distorted idea about Indonesian democracy. As an Indonesian, I see no non-muslims who is even good (you mentioned "the best") candidates as the next president.

Ruled bij the dutch , ruled by the Suharto gang or ruled by political islam.
Ulema Council. Indonesians should run themselves finally. Merdeka!!!
Ban political islam cause it will kill you faster than the heaviest keretek in the market.

Oh, God. Not again...

1.I did yoga once but never thought of converting - no matter how ridiculous some of my own "brothers and sisters" can really be. I'm personally embarrassed by all of this.

2.Honestly, I'm more afraid of voting for the wrong candidates - the kind who promise this and that but then forgetting everything once they succeed. Some of these jerks hide behind "religions" to show people as if they're the holiest ones amongst others.

3.We've known the dangers already on children and pregnant women. Why do they still treat people like stupid kids? There have already been similar regulations before this, but how do we expect real disciplines from Indonesians themselves?

4.Nothing new. My old high school teacher in Al-Azhar taught us that in 1998. (But how come it's not well-socialized here?)

5.No comment. No, wait. What if the guy has testical cancer and it has to be permanently removed in order not to endanger his own life?:P

6. Oh, yeah. They've issued it again right after major protests from the public about that cleric marrying a 12-year-old. HELLOOO, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN???

This is totally pointless and too embarrassing beyond words.

No doubt many will comment on these great edicts but this is my take:
"1. A ban on aspects of yoga that contain Hindu elements." Poor petals feelng threatened by another religion? A pathetic bit of paranoia that serves no real purpose other than to confuse people who enjoy yoga as a health giving exercise and will bring further ridicule to Islam and Indonesia.

"2. A ban on vote abstention if “qualified” candidates exist." Sounds plausible until you read the fine print. Totally discriminatory and divisive because it makes it illegal for Muslims to vote for non-Muslims no matter how qualified they might be. A further example of paranoia of an inward looking forum that is trying to involve itself in politics.

"3. A ban on smoking by children and pregnant women, and in public places." Just a case of fiddling around the edges without dealing with the question of smoking as an addictive drug with serious health implications, including premature death. Why did they bother?
(As for the comments by Azyumardi supporting the edict "considering the fact the tobacco industry employed so many workers and contributed much to the country’s economy.". What moral standards play off employment against the death of 400,000 fellow Indonesians every year by tobacco related disease (cancer, emphasima etc.)?)

"4. A ban on abortion unless the mother is a rape victim, the pregnancy endangers her life, or the fetus is aged less than 5 weeks." The woman's rights have been further curtailed - by men as usual. How many women participated in this debate?

"5. A ban on vasectomy because the process is "irreversible"." Well they obviously didn't check their facts on that one. Factually incorrect - where did they get their advice? Vasectomy as practiced by qualified surgeons IS REVERSIBLE but for legal reasons reversibility is not guaranteed and so patients are advised it is 'irreversible'. This edict/fatwa is just another retrograde bit of male chauvinism that further burdens the woman with responsibility for family planning.

"6. A ban on marriage with minors, based on a 1974 law that forbids men under 19 and women under 16 years old from marrying." Sometimes common sense comes through - or was it in response to the recent protests of the community?

Hopefully the educated and informed will be able to distinguish between the politics and the religion, the facts and the fantasy.

This just goes to show we are still stuck in the middle ages of darkness and backwardness as far as our thinking goes, and why we will remain third world. It is not money that makes a first world country but thinking. We blindly follow MUI fatwas without question and never stop to think why there are so many meaningless fatwas today.

Cr94bw, please tell me you were joking.

i hope one day there will be an article "MUI condemned as useless".

Like the Vatican... just doing what they can to control their people. Controlling them through in-direct threats and layering on the guilt.

Interesting that a non-Muslim could be the best (or only) presidential candidate, but they aren't allowed to vote for him/her.

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